arm & hammer clean shower - no disclosure of ingredients

I was fooled.

When I saw Arm & Hammer brand
I thought, great ... baking soda and natural ingredients

There is nothing on the spray bottle to indicate what is in it ... or how to use the product, either

I just used it to wash the bathtub,
and the hand I was wiping with a rag & this product
feels really dried out   What's in this version?

I suspect butyl is in the product ... or 2-butoxyethanol

Even when you go to their page of MSDS info
you get no more info than when you look at a bottle

I have just sent an e-mail. I hope they will disclose the ingredients

It is probably something like Scrubbing Bubbles which is 10% 2(2-butoxyethanol) like firemen's foam

I didn't find this brand of shower cleaner in the Household Data base, either

http://hpd.nlm.nih.gov/products.htm

Spot Shot carpet cleaner is 25% 2-butoxyethanol & it is SPRAYED, too  -   These Poor Cats!

Poor Jet Travolta ran into this type of chemical at age 2 *, took until age 16 before he died *

I am asking the company who manufactures it now

http://www.churchdwight.com/Conprods/Household/cleaners.asp

www.cleanshower.com

1-800-926-5222 M-F 9-5 ET  Requested MSDS on 1/29/09 should be mailed by 7-10 days receipt

... and asking a company who lists it as a product that can be purchased from them, their reply: 

 

Sorry. Our office manager, Jim, reports that that product is no longer manufactured by Arm & Hammer and thus the MSDS is not available. We can call them & see if they still have it in their archives. Anything specific you were looking for? Please advise. Thanks. Karen
I am usually concerned about Ethylene Glycol Mono Butyl Ether,

C6H14O2/CH3(CH2)2CH2OCH2CH2OH           MSDS info

  I just suspect it has 2-butoxyethanol in it (& if so, how much?)
 
  or 2(2-butoxyethanol)
 
CAS 112-34-5 Diethylene glycol monobutyl ether
CAS 111-76-2    Ethylene glycol monobutyl ether

or  Poly(propylene glycol) monobutyl ether *

CH3(CH2)3[OCH2CH(CH3)]nOH

 
and if so, it would be very important that it was disclosed to users
 
If you could find out from Arm & Hammer ...   I would very much appreciate it

 

Dear Margaret,      

I will ask our office manager, Jim, to help you with this MSDS.

Karen

Valdez Visitor in 08 - Yea!

 
2-9-09  Ten days ago I called the new company who owns this product, and asked for an MSDS they said they would mail me one within 7-10 days... today ... I received it.  NO disclosure of any ingredients .... just that there were no ingredients over 1% in the product that were known to be cancer causing.  There were serious warnings for use, however, that were not on the product bottle.  I can tell you that one of the above chemical components, at a strong strength is most likely there ... AND the day I used the product with my bare hands wiping down the bathtub, the little finger got a joint kink in it that persists to this day.  It's probably arthritis starting up. 

I heard of a baby in our town who suddenly came down with rheumatoid arthritis and couldn't crawl.  She is being seen at Shriner's Hospital and a host of pediatricians.  They are doing genetic testing.   They should be asking what cleaning products or painting, etc might have been going on in her home then.

We need new laws of disclosure.  As it is now, companies do not have to disclose to housewives what is in the cleaning products they use.  We should consider banning this chemical and if not learn to avoid it!  *

Please contact your US Senators / US Rep or when health care issues come up in Congress, they will continue down the paths they have been going down ... (generally expensive & non-effective) ... and not realize they need to avoid ... maybe even ban products with BUTYL, but for sure give proper disclosure of ingredients to EVERYONE, even those who clean at home!

Says an expert in business use of chemicals:  *

"We do indeed use some really toxic stuff in the house & no MSDS unless you have at least 2 employees. 

You can kill yourself, but not an employee." 

Patent for Clean Shower says

The worst pesticide

our Soldiers have been (& are being) exposed to

http://www.valdezlink.com/re/vets/aglycolether.htm

Flu shots?  *

Senator Lisa Murkowski had taken an interest in the health issues of BUTYL  *

I suspect she will also be interested in the inadequate disclosure to housewives

2-butoxyethanol CHRONIC EFFECTS - TARGET ORGANS, per UK research:

SENSE ORGANS AND SPECIAL SENSES (Other olfaction effects)
BEHAVIORAL (General Anesthetic)
BEHAVIORAL (Altered sleep time)
BEHAVIORAL (Somnolence)
BEHAVIORAL (Excitement)
BEHAVIORAL (ATAXIA)
BEHAVIORAL (Coma)
BEHAVIORAL (ANALGESIA) LUNGS, THORAX OR RESPIRATION (DYSPNAE)
LUNGS, THORAX OR RESPIRATION (Other changes)
GASTROINTESTINAL (Nasea or vomiting)
GASTROINTESTINAL (Other changes)
LIVER (Tumors)

KIDNEY, ureter, bladder (hematuria - blood in urine)
KIDNEY, ureter, bladder (other changes)
ENDOCRINE (Tumors)
SKIN AND APPENDAGES (Hair)
MATERNAL EFFECTS (uterus, cervix, vagina)
MATERNAL EFFECTS (Other effects on female)
EFFECTS ON FERTILITY (Pre-implantation mortality)
EFFECTS ON FERTILITY (Post-implantation mortality)
EFFECTS ON FERTILITY (Litter size)
SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENTAL ABNORMALITIES (Musculoskeletal system)
SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENTAL ABNORMALITIES (Cardiovascular system)
NUTRITIONAL AND GROSS METABOLIC (Weight loss
or decreased weight gain)
NUTRITIONAL AND GROSS METABOLIC (Changes in: metabolic acidosis)
TUMORIGENIC (Carcinogenic by RTECS criteria)
TUMORIGENIC (Equivocal tumorigenic agent by RTECS criteria)

What else does 2-butoxyethanol do?  Why is it only a health hazard rating of 1 or 2 when so much harm is found? CAUSES EYE IRRITATION. AFFECTS CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM, BLOOD AND BLOOD-FORMING ORGANS, KIDNEYS, LIVER AND LYMPHOID SYSTEM.

NJ Hazardous Chemical Fact sheet on 2-butoxyethanol pdf

    * Two Cats    &   Ziggy's Cat 2009

Died after exposure to 2-butoxyethanol ... carpet cleaning products ... weakness and tests showing kidney and liver failure.  Replicate this with animals scheduled for being put to sleep.  Audrey's husband not well after spraying simple green *

Protect Yourself From Future Harm!

Check for what products contain 2-butoxyethanol
(CAS Registry Number: 000111-76-2)
in the Household Products Data Base
http://hpd.nlm.nih.gov/ingredients.htm
or check on the internet.

I note that the paint companies, Fuller O'Brien, in particular, are now putting good warnings on their paint, whereas previously you couldn't find the harmful ingredient, or adequate warnings for such.  They are concerned, I believe, about a suit for Negligent Failure to Warn after the past 10 years of lawsuits re:  lead in paints.

Exposure is not ingestion, however, it is getting the vapors in one's eyes.  It is not JUST kidney failure, but a host of issues that can start up at the same time.

 

Some Ideas shared by a Pro in the Field:

If you have two employees, you have to post or have easy access to MSDS for all products the employees will use. This includes one or more maids who clean in your home - you must obtain MSDS for Clorox, Tide, Spray N Wash, silver polish, Windex, etc. If you use it yourself, then you are entitled to screw up and kill yourself, by accident, for not reading the label - but woe betide you if your employee mixed ammonia and Clorox and gets fatally ill and you did not OFFER MSDS for the products. Of course if you have them available and nobody reads them - hey that is their problem (unless you have 50 employees and then you are required to have a safety officer and give seminars to be sure they ARE educated).

Incidentally, you tell the companies that you have an employee and OSHA requires you to have an MSDS on hand and they MUST GIVE YOU ONE - BY LAW. If not, call OSHA and tell them who would not give you an MSDS. Now nothing says the MSDS has to be well written or even accurate, but they must have one and they must give it to YOU, if asked.

Once you have the MSDS, call the help phone number and tell them your dog drank the stuff, so what should you do, or your kid took a bath in it and is screaming. You can learn a LOT that way too. Not exactly ethical, but its one way to learn. By the way, you did not get this harebrained idea from ME. Unh unh - not me.

   

Health Effects From Full-Strength Ingredient

NFPA Rating

CAS Number

Ingredient Name

Eye Effects

Skin Effects

Skin Absorb?

Inhalation Effects

Chronic Effects

H

F

R

00111-76-2 2-Butoxy Ethanol

Irr

Irr

Yes

  Reproductive & Fetal Effects; Liver & Kidney Damage; Blood Damage

2

2

0

  00112-34-5 Diethylene Glycol Monobutyl Ether

Irr

Irr

Yes

Slight

Kidney damage; Central Nervous System effects

1

2

0

From Arizona friend, " I think either hydrogen peroxide or lemon vinegar remain the two safest cleaning products. The local YMCA uses hydrogen peroxide."

What about comet with scrub brush?