It’s funny, most of the family members didn’t want to talk much about the death of their loved one. Most seemed to be interested in, “What was the status of my loved one overseas.” You know, did he have lots of friends? Did you get along with him well? Exactly what was his job? Things like that.

I did learn that all of them came to a point when they became very lethargic, got sick after eating far more often than ever before, started to have night sweats that were so bad they were tested for malaria. Those were the common traits, then people would talk about their son/brother/uncle walking with a limp or some other malady that probably had nothing to do with their death. I know they died of cancer but the death cert listed cause of death, fevers of an unknown origin.

BTW, of the first four of us who made contact, two were police sergeants, one was a postal supervisor and one still works for the IRS. Between us we did a pretty fair job of tracking people down.

Stay healthy,
Andy

You are very close to some valuable information, Andy.

Keep on .... the death certificate is not very accurate many times. Maybe there are many things that could be listed.

You don't need as many people as you think, to prove the exposure or health ailments being from that.

Night sweats? I would suspect some type of lymphoma.

There is a gland or two that regulates body temp. I would suspect some type of endocrine disruption.

MORTARDUDE, yes, I heard 28% of the gulf war vets affected by 'the syndrome' and also that they are no more harmed in the various ailments they are being diagnosed with ... than the general populations EXCEPT for ALS.

That's why I suspect Lou Gehrig was affected by EGBE. I plan to get the video, Pride of the Yankees, and see if I recognize some exposures ... or more of the pattern, such as short term memory loss, horrible headaches, etc.

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Maggie

People that are alive today ... Do know what happened to the gulf war vet ... the WWII vet ... the Vietnam Vet ... the Korean Vet.

If they arose and told what they knew, we would have the true picture of what the 'casualties' of these wars really were.

I suspect that not only Pres FDR, but also Hitler were affected in a serious way to the fumes of war-time. We have to go back at least that far to understand the 'epidemic' of harm caused by 2-butoxyethanol and similar chemicals

Now it is not that difficult to recognize the harm of EGBE. You have already read enough of my posts, that, if you were interested, you could spot it, too

Maggie

Maggie,

Of all the people I’ve met, talked to, who were determined to have had cancer that was agent orange related they all had lymphoma or skin cancer. I’m sure others have other kinds of cancer, it’s just my personal experience.

I do have one good friend, he was also a platoon sergeant in our company, that has a strange one. For the last 15 years once sometimes twice a year he’ll get blisters. I’m not talking about the sort of blister you might get on your heel from wearing new shoes that are too tight. He’s had blister as large as 2x4”, sometimes on the bottom’s of his feet, sometimes in the middle of his back. VA doctors have taken samples of the fluid but to date they don’t know what it is. It isn’t cancer but I’m sure you understand this sort of re-occurring problem causes him a little stress.

Larry,
I really had no idea that the VA claim rate was so high for Desert Storm Vets. If our Army had to fight anyone in straight up battles that ended up being more than speed bumps there would be an argument for the DU ammo but of course that isn’t the case. Your point is well taken.

BTW: I've had dealings with Trap Rock, Deerfield is only 20 miles away from my house and they have been organizing demonstrations, protests, whatever for a long time. They are on the real fringes. But they wouldn't just "make up" those numbers. Most of the members have a PhD or at least a Masters in the social sciences. Damn, those are high numbers.

Stay healthy,
Andy

This might be a kind of ulcer ... sometimes you hear of mouth ulcers. And I suspect it would be a way the body 'complains about too much of some kind of chemical'

As to skin cancer, sometimes there are other kinds of melanomas besides just skin ... liver ... quite a few other things can also be melanoma cancers.

If you are finding the same health ailments, it would signal about the same amount of exposure ... to the same or very similar chemical. (Just my take on it)

I was looking into adrenoleukodystrophy and shared with the Myelin Foundation that it was the kind of thing that 2-butoxyethanol would cause.

Well, turns out there is a LONG list of leukodystrooophies and one is only found among those Jewish people that were at a particular 'camp during WWII'  So, that further causes me to wonder about having the same exposure to the same chemical & in the same amount ... causes the same effects for that group.

It wouldn't surprise me, though, if the EGBE type chemicals cause them all. Just as I suspect this chemical for causing all of the soft tissue sarcomas regardless of where the tumor appears. That might also include bronchial sarcomas (lung cancers) and some types of breast cancers

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