D-Day soldier gets Emphysema - It's an autoimmune issue

I think it adds insult to injury to say they get lung cancer or emphysema from smoking. Or mesothelioma from asbestos, for that matter

There are chemical exposures very strong in all war eras ... 1347, 1918 ... 1940s ... late 1960s to 70s, 1990-1991 ... and a few others

Says a baby boomer,

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	My deceased step father was in the D-Day invasion. He said he had to lead another solider around by the hand because the guy was so scared and my step father said he wasn't much better. He died of emphysema from smoking. I had a half brother who died in a car accident and my half sister is still alive

my reply, "Emphysema is autoimmune - smoking wouldn't matter"

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An Animal Model of Autoimmune Emphysema

Although cigarette smoking is implicated in the pathogenesis of emphysema, the precise mechanisms of chronic progressive alveolar septal destruction are not well understood. We show, in a novel animal model, that immunocompetent, but not athymic, nude rats injected intraperitoneally with xenogeneic endothelial cells (ECs) produce antibodies against ECs and develop emphysema. Immunization with ECs also leads to alveolar septal cell apoptosis and activation of matrix metalloproteases MMP-9 and MMP-2. Anti-EC antibodies cause EC apoptosis in vitro and emphysema in passively immunized mice. Moreover, immunization also causes accumulation of CD4+ T cells in the lung. Adoptive transfer of pathogenic, spleen-derived CD4+ cells into naive immunocompetent animal also results in emphysema. This study shows for the first time that humoral- and CD4+ cell-dependent mechanisms are sufficient to trigger the development of emphysema, suggesting that alveolar septal cell destruction might result from immune mechanisms. Cont

"Interesting. I am still not convinced but you do find scientific papers to back up your ideas on autoimmune being at the center of disease." Mr. P

Well, I just believe that if it isn't autoimmune ... it wouldn't be this chemical

Many things are autoimmune

2-butoxyethanol overexposure LOOKS LIKE the FLU

D-Day & WWII 'fall out'

I Pledge Allegiance

with Red Skelton

Marine Corps' Hymn

It is the Soldier,

not the reporter who has given us freedom of press

It is the Soldier,

not the poet who has given us freedom of speech

It is the Soldier,

not the campus organizer who gives us freedom to demonstrate

It is the Soldier who salutes the flag,

who serves beneath the flag,

(and) whose coffin is draped by the flag,

and who (allows the protester to burn the flag.)

AND who inspires us to Honor the flag
Father Dennis Edward O'Brien *