OSHA reopened - for 46,000 auto workers

At least 3 people in your forum have suggested that I share my information on 2-butoxyethanol suspected harm ... here in the political thread.

OSHA did reopen this issue for the benefit of 46,000 auto workers. I have wondered what brought this to their attention and what they found out? (I suspect it is from the painting of cars, the mechanical work, and the cleaning products used)

A year ago I met a very nice couple from down south whose son-in-law died of cancer. That left their daughter a widow & left their 2 half grown granddaughters - fatherless. They shared that in the past he had worked for about 4 years in painting the racing stripes on cars. He was VERY good, and did it free-hand.

The harm of this chemical is known; many studies on animals; however, the USA doesn't know, they say, whether it causes cancer or birth defects for people. (It is a teratogen ... harms the developing fetus; it does damage the testes)

It is a chemical of harm to the gulf war syndrome vets ... but it has not been studied. They say that no 2 gulf war vets 'look the same' and doctors are very frustated ... some don't even believe there is such a thing as 'gulf war illness'

Well, I say to you, that the fatigue will all look the same; if there is enough in the medical records, even if dead ... the harm of this chemical can be pinpointed: there will be blood in urine early on & for many years later ... and there will be a drop in the red blood cell counts over time: the red blood cells will also be immature red blood cells. Those harmed will be found to have acquired autoimmune hemolytic anemia. Doctors don't check for it, because the hemoglobin and the hematocrit don't drop; they don't expect it to be there; and therefore they don't check for it.

Yes, studies do need to be done.  See what the World Health Organization knows
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says one on your forum, "Oh, it's not very widespread"
I beg to differ with you. Check all cancer groups that have to do with the endocrine system including diabetes, & metabolic & blood pressure issues; check especially prostate and ovarian & pancreatic, & thyroid & kidney and liver cancers; check all lymphomas and leukemias and tumors of the brain for these 'clues' Then you will find the root cause of these ailments

Most especially check all military since the late 1930's who have the 'gulf war syndrome' CFS or CFIDS symptoms

and we can lobby Congress to ban 2-butoxyethanol & diethylene glycol monobutyl ether chemicals

Now, I am not a medical person; and there is a theory that an ordinary person can't discover something like this. Well, spend 5-6 hours a day every day since June, 2002 studying this chemical ... and talking to everyone you can who's had experience with it ... be that focused, and maybe you will find some valuable information for others to work with.

This is the 'package' of 2-butoxyethanol's harm:
(thankfully not everyone gets everything)

You may know people harmed by 2-butoxyethanol - ask these questions: http://www.valdezlink.com/health_survey_for_doctor.htm
For anyone who worked on the Exxon Valdez oil spill cleanup!
For any with CFIDS & for 'gulf war syndrome' vets

Any of these symptoms of hemolytic anemia
Chills
Fatigue
Pale color
Shortness of breath
Rapid heart rate
Yellow skin color (jaundice)
Dark urine (indicative of blood in urine - never dismiss this! Stop exposure immediately!)
Enlarged spleen

Unrefreshed sleep

If too many immature red blood cells, other tests may be off

This chemical also causes: Narcosis
Damage to the kidney
Damage to the liver
Present an abnormal blood picture showing: Erythropenia
Present an abnormal blood picture showing: Reticulocytosis
Present an abnormal blood picture showing: Granulocytosis
Present an abnormal blood picture showing: Leukocytosis
Likely to Cause Fragility of Erythrocytes
Likely to Cause Hematuria

from Hemat = blood and
uria = of urine
· Hematuria simply means blood in the urine


Causes Central Nervous System (CNS) DEPRESSION
Difficulty concentrating
Short term memory loss
Very irritable ‘fly off the handle all the time over nothing’
Difficulty sleeping
Suicidal Tendencies
Central Nervous System DEPRESSION

Loss of taste
Headaches and Stupor.

Causes skin irritation: rashes; 'defatted skin; leathery skin'
Causes severe eye irritation - damage to tissue possible
Irritating to mucous membranes and upper respiratory tract

2-butoxyethanol and
CHRONIC EFFECTS - TARGET ORGANS:

Sense Organs & Special Senses (OTHER OLFACTION EFFECTS)
Sense Organs & Special Senses (OTHER EYE EFFECTS)
Behavioral (GENERAL ANESTHETIC)
Behavioral (ALTERED SLEEP TIME)
Behavioral (SOMNOLENCE)
Behavioral (EXCITEMENT)
Behavioral (ATAXIA)
Behavioral (COMA)
Behavioral (ANALGESIA) LUNGS, THORAX OR RESPIRATION (DYSPNAE)
LUNGS, THORAX OR RESPIRATION (OTHER CHANGES)
Gastrointestinal (NAUSEA OR VOMITING)
Gastrointestinal (OTHER CHANGES)
LIVER (TUMORS)
KIDNEY, URETER, BLADDER (HEMATURIA)
KIDNEY, URETER, BLADDER (OTHER CHANGES)
Endocrine (Tumors)
Skin and Appendages (Hair)
Maternal Effects (UTERUS, CERVIX, VAGINA)
Maternal Effects (OTHER EFFECTS ON FEMALE)
Effects on Fertility (PRE-IMPLANTATION MORTALITY)
Effects on Fertility (POST-IMPLANTATION MORTALITY)
Effects on Fertility (LITTER SIZE)
Specific Developmental Abnormalities (MUSCULOSKELETAL SYSTEM)
Specific Developmental Abnormalities (CARDIOVASCULAR SYSTEM)
Nutritional and Gross Metabolic (WEIGHT LOSS OR DECREASED WEIGHT GAIN)
Nutritional and Gross Metabolic (CHANGES IN: METABOLIC ACIDOSIS)
Tumorigenic (CARCINOGENIC BY RTECS CRITERIA)
Tumorigenic (EQUIVOCAL TUMORIGENIC AGENT BY RTECS CRITERIA)

Chills?
http://www.valdezlink.com/rr_chills.htm

http://www.valdezlink.com/rr_thyroi...eukemia.htm#sym

Oh, yeah, and headaches, too! Headaches come with the 'territory' of 2-butoxyethanol harm

Even little children can be affected & go to their rooms to wait out a 'headache'

Now if your are talking about the other kind of 'headaches'
That's not so great ... because if this chemical is part of someone's harm,
there is a loss of interest in sex (What a revoltin' development)

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Duh doesn't everything cause cancer.
NEWS FLASH:
Chemicals can be harmful to the human body.
See how easy that was?
Ah yes ,more fodder for the lawyers. I worked at a GM plant and spent 20+years in a refinery.  Where I routinely wore a hazardous chemical monitor. I have many of the symptoms described, but I'm old and will no doubt die within the next ten years.  Did exposure to any of those chemicals shorten my life , possibly, but I think my unhealthy life style had a whole bunch more to do with it, than any exposure to some chemical.  My choices to smoke , drink , eat fat rich food and not exercise regularly have more to do with my present condition, than any miniscule exposure to some chemical.  I take personal responsibility for my actions and will accept no free ride at your expense to enrich my descendents...
Lashlarue, thank you. We need more people in this country with your attitude. Maybe we'd see a big drop in all these damn frivolous lawsuits.

I work as a diesel mechanic and I get routinely doused in oil (diesels, due to all the soot generated during combustion, have some of the NASTIEST oil especially after 30,000 miles), and I use solvents a lot to clean parts, often with my bare hands. Gear oil can be pretty nasty too, not to mention diesel itself. If it affects my health someday, oh well. I chose the profession, and have to deal with any consequences." Bill
Point of the matter

... yes, there are lots of things that can cause cancers; there are lots of chemicals that can harm a person ... it's all in the dose, they say;

However, this chemical 'takes the cake' and it doesn't seem to take that much exposure.  AND
it is an unnecessary risk.

Hope is, that if you have some awareness on this topic, you can prevent 'too much exposure' for you. You can stop short of getting a cancer ... You can educate your sweetheart and children to 'take care,' too!

Many, many times people can go back to the very day they had an acute exposure ... the 'flu-like' symptoms, the dark urine,
'eyes burning,'  the FAIGUE. That can highlight for the rest of us what to be careful of.

You should also have some idea what the symptoms are of too much of any kind of chemical might be: cough that won't quit; sniffling like you have a cold, but you don't, etc. etc.

Sorry, but right now, all I can focus on is getting an accurate diagnosis. The rest ... what to do, etc. is for the medical profession to get ahold of. What is a cure for this type of chemical exposure? For sure, giving medications to stop the symptoms is near pointless ... maybe even harmful.

You can take a stand, if this proves to be a harm to your group, & keep our youth & hard working American people from falling victim to it.

PS

This chemical is
NO RESPECTER of persons. It doesn't matter whether you 'take care of yourself' or you don't.


But beyond that, you may be able to avoid costly and painful tests, if you check the harm caused by this chemical first, instead of NEVER. Once you do decide to go to the doctor.

 

I think you are a little mis-guided here, in believing that anyone in this forum really even gives a **** about the subject at hand, which you are crusading for whatever reason.
OK

For those who aren't interested, just ignore this.

However, it is sad to see what happened to so many affected, and that we have learned nothing about it.

If this is the cause of 'gulf war syndrome' then we are still poisoning our own troops with a common cleaning and degreaser chemical. Did you know we only lost 148 soldiers of the coalition forces out of 700,000 from the first gulf war; however, now those harmed by 'the syndrome' is approaching 30%




Had I been given the task of finding the cause of 'gulf war syndrome' I never could have, no matter how many millions of dollars were put into the project.

We are harming our unborn.   No baby should be harmed by such chemicals prior to birth.   No couple should find themselves childless because they took a job one day, and served their employer and country well.

Some authentic 'military warnings'  Probably should be 'in the Lounge'

If anyone wants more input, just e-mail me.

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