Another Cause of Lung Cancer

I don't think it has anything to do with smoking.

Be careful of this chemical or your health ailments will worsen.

Who has died of lung cancer who lived in Valdez?

Before AND after 1989?

Bonnie Neilsen died March 10, 2006. When on vacation she was having trouble breathing and her husband insisted that she go to the ER. Her lung cancer was diagnosed in August, 2005. I spoke with her in December and she said that she had non small cell carcinoma. (I'll double check that, but I think that's what she said) She said she did not smoke.

I asked her what she did in 1989. She said that at first she worked in the sea otter recovery in Valdez and then ended up working in an Exxon office. Last month she was medivaced to Anchorage with fluid building up in her lungs. Bonnie has 2 children. Bonnie was a very sweet woman not yet 50 most likely. Our town and our world is diminished by loosing her.

Howard Chaffin (& had tumors throughout his body) Howard and his wife owned the Chevron in Valdez. He could have worked with this chemical in auto mechanics; it is in brake fluid, etc. But also, everyone came there to buy their gas. Maybe second hand solvent exposure to EGBE?

Shellie Moehler Thought for a long time to just have a cold or the flu? Lung cancer was not diagnosed until late stage

Ed Irish? I heard they thought he was OK, and then he hemorrhaged to death. I heard he worked the big fork lift on the docks ... with the big kettle type of buckets - he most likely came into contact with the Corexit and Inipol (38% and 12% 2-butoxyethanol). From the day I attended his memorial service I suspected he came into contact with this chemical in 1989. It can take a long time for lung cancer to show up, they say. He died several years ago.

Del Welch (& he also had liver, lymph & bone cancers) & he did work on the oil spill cleanup - Provided landing craft to a bioremediation site - Knight Island

And other things?

March 9 Jack Johnson died of cancer. I don't know what kind; however, he drove Taxi cab in recent years. I don't know what he did in 1989 ... or about his folks, but maybe someday I can ask the family some questions.

I've been wondering whether those in the Weather Office had a lot of people in 1989 come into their office ... Jeff Bailey has had a lot of health concerns in recent years.

A woman who worked at the Clinic in 1989 died last month of ALS -

Although his family doesn't suspect so, I believe Slim Blood who did live in Valdez in 1989 and before ... with serious kidney & liver concerns should be counted among the victims of 2-butoxyethanol poisoning. Died before he should have; suffered in a way he should not have.

I would also like to know whether or not there was a serious flu for Clyde Ruhl whose diabetes was so severe he died after an operation for cutting off his second leg. He was healthy before 1989 wasn't he? Diabetes is one of the primary side effects of 2-butoxyethanol poisoning. Clyde was a surveyor. Maybe he ran across some of the spilled chemical - or maybe second hand solvent exposure, again.

Jaw Cancer for Tom Van Brocklin (died early 1990s) and for JD our electrician (died January, 2006). Is there the same chemical exposure? I suspect so.

Bob Kellar helped out after his main job by working bar tending. He died of pancreatic cancer in 1995.

Other health issues, too - like gastrointestinal problems for our tax consultant; heart attack for the barber.

What a loss for our town & their families

March 11, 2006

In case you are wondering, I have NO medical background of any kind. However, I do recognize the pattern of 2-butoxyethanol harm ... there's a common thread since before WWII and it looks like every military group has harm from it ... not the other things they generally focus on ... like dioxin for Vietnam and Korean vets, for instance

But from what I can tell ... doctors don't give much thought to any chemical exposure. EGBE should be the one they do look into. That's what I think

I think I've stumbled onto the FATIGUE of CFIDS. This would be the proof of 2-butoxyethanol harm. You have to prove the fatigue that doctors say they don't know what it is.

National Institute of Health is interested in my theory & said if I had a researcher to work with, that they had grant money.

Anyway ... thoughts on types of lung cancer

Types of lung cancers:

Small cell lung cancer (SCLC) typically begins near the center of the chest, in the bronchi. These cancer cells are small, but can multiple quickly to form large tumors. Small-cell lung cancer is sometimes called oat cell cancer because of its oat grain-like shape.
Non-small cell lung cancer (NSCLC) is comprised of three major subtypes, each with a unique size, shape and chemical make-up:

Adenocarcinoma is generally found in the outer region of the lung. When it develops in the lung’s alveoli (tiny lung sacs), it is referred to as bronchioalveolar adenocarcinoma.

Squamous carcinoma is closely linked to cigarette smoking, and typically originates in the lung’s large breathing tubes (bronchi).

Large cell carcinoma usually begins growing in branches of the smaller breathing tubes (bronchioles) and may migrate towards an area behind the breastbone called the mediastinum. The mediastinum houses the esophagus, windpipe, bronchi and heart.

Metastatic lung cancer is cancer that has spread to other parts of your body.

Maybe this does not start one place and spread to another.

Maybe we are dealing with a chemical exposure that targets multilple body systems and organs simultaneously?

mesothelioma? Why do they think it is caused from asbestos?
Is it really? Or is something else there?

They think it was lead in paint that causes harm ... it's the ethylene glycol monobutyl ether many times, but lead gets the blame ... or it has until recently. Now warnings on paint say, "Contains ethylene glycol ... causes kidney damage" The company didn't tell me WHICH ethylene glycol, though, when I inquired.

They always suspect a virus when this chemical poisoning is the cause. Someday, I hope they blame EGBE for something that it does.

In looking into lung cancer today, I found the story of Carl Zimmermann. He was diagnosed with lymphoma - Morbus Hodgkin ... in 2002 and in 03 was talking about tumors in his lungs and lungs filling up with fluid ... his photo story from here gives his diary on it. With the best cancer treatments available & a lot of pain and suffering in the meantime ... he dies in July, 2005

In many places there is not good medical care. People just pick something and say they died of that ... not realizing that something else might be going on, too


Ask them this list of questions either for themselves or for a parent

Soft tissue sarcoma in lungs?


Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) A lung disease in which the lung is damaged, making it hard to breathe. In COPD, the airways-the tubes that carry air in and out of your lungs-are partly obstructed, making it difficult to get air in and out. (Most likely NOT from cigarettes as is generally thought ... but an autoimmune issue?)

There is an autoimmune aspect to these - see if the rest of the pattern is there & if so, suspect the root cause to be 2-butoxyethanol (not the logical thing, smoking)

I would give them massive doses of glyconutrients if I really wanted to help them - what is generally done? and does it help?

March 12, 2006

Yeah, ok.

Lung cancer is pretty common, and has been for a while. And get this, the majority of it is not from smoking. It's just that nobody pays much attention to it because it's assumed to be a smokers disease.  CLBeedle
Therein lies the fallacy

If you eliminated those harmed by 2-butoxyethanol from other cancer trials (such as prostate cancer, liver cancer, adrenal failures, NHL, diabetes)

You wouldn't have much left

Nope, it's not smoking that causes lung cancer, but true to form, something else always gets the blame for what 2-butoxyethanol does.

Like a virus ... for the FLU and on and on and on. Last thing we need in the military is another vaccine. How about not poisoning our own troops

You should track where the Corexit is in the military. Exxon sold it to the DoD after 1989. I heard one gulf war vet with 'the illness' reflecting upon a barrel like that that was leaking in the arms room
My dad died from non small cell lung cancer in February.

He was 78 and a smoker since he was 16, but the doctor told him that this type of lung cancer does not come from smoking.

We don't know what could have been the factor, since he was retired for almost 20 years and previous work didn't involve chemicals, etc.

In my dad's words "When you gotta go, you gotta go, when and how only God knows."


Originally posted by 8631152:
My dad died from non small cell lung cancer in February.

He was 78 and a smoker since he was 16, but the doctor told him that this type of lung cancer does not come from smoking.
Sorry to hear about your father passing away. The following info may be of interest however.

Non-Small Cell Lung Cancers

Non-small cell lung cancers are categorized into three types: squamous cell carcinoma (also called epidermoid carcinoma), adenocarcinoma, and large cell carcinoma. These separate types are grouped together because, in early stages before the cancers have spread, they all can be treated surgically.

Squamous Cell Carcinoma. Squamous cells are formed from reserve cells, which are round cells that replace injured or damaged cells in the lining (the epithelium) of the bronchi, the major airways. Tumors formed from squamous cells are usually found in the center of the lung, either in a major lobe or in one of the main airway branches. They may grow to large sizes and form cavities in the lungs.

When squamous cell cancer metastasizes, it may travel to the bone, adrenal glands, liver, small intestine, and brain.

Squamous cell carcinoma is nearly always caused by smoking and used to be the most common cancer. It still makes up between 25% and 40% of all lung cancers.

Well I'm glad that at least sometimes doctors recognize that lung cancer is NOT from smoking ...

ESPECIALLY in cases thought to have spread ... as there is a commonly used chemical that itself targets multiple body systems/organs/glands ... it is not a case of spreading from one place to another.

... & for "When squamous cell cancer metastasizes, it may travel to the bone, adrenal glands, liver, small intestine, and brain." ESPECIALLY these!

If doctors ever even once blamed 2-butoxyethanol for cause of this soft tissue sarcoma: lung cancer, then I would think they are FINALLY on the right track

It could show up in WWII vets &/or their children, etc, etc

Look at this health viewpoint
Originally posted by DearMaggie:

Nope, it's not smoking that causes lung cancer, but true to form, something else always gets the blame for what 2-butoxyethanol does.
Originally posted by scooter_mech:

Dear DearMaggie;
If you can show proof that smoking does not cause lung cancer, I'd like to see it!

former smoker

You are only toting common medical thinking.
Whether or not someone smokes is irrelevant ...
and asbestos ..? just the attorneys' 'deep pocket'

If the best doctors in the Nation haven't recognized the pattern of this chemical ... back to Pres FDR & his real cause of death, how do you suspect we can?

It is understandable 60 + years ago ... but not today. Even VP Cheney's 'shortness of breath' unrelated to heart condition ... should be suspect ... 'burning foot syndrome' too?

Maybe there should be a study of the Exxon Valdez oil spill workers. What happened to their health is VALUABLE medical evidence of the fatigue, nervous system damage, & cancers that 2-butoxyethanol should be suspect for.

Important for the military ... Do not put a soldier in harms way by giving them a job that continually exposes them to 2-butoxyethanol. Wear air tight goggles in war-time, too.

AND get rid of Exxon's Corexit that was sold to the DoD

We suspect strong second hand solvent exposure, as gulf war syndrome vets will attest to. So can a true epidemiology picture of the residents of Valdez, 1989 who came in contact with the bioremediation & 'Corexit trial' workers

Lung Cancer - Another Cause Web page of this thread

Posted June 18, 2006

How about Navy 85-88 exposures?