That's it, the arms room! the arms room!

 
states 'shatteredLife2,'

I did spend a lot of time in the arms room and there was a barrel of something (50 gal.) I do slightly remember something in that room... I didn't know what it was though. It also seems like something was leaking... my mind is so messed up I just don't recall things correctly? there may have been a wet place on the floor-- I'll have to try and think back? I believe it was blue though.

I felt fine though while in the arms room. It is what came afterwards though, the gray skin with a red tint to it, bloodshot red eyes, joint pain, body aches, headache, chest pain, nausea, dizziness, malaised, lassitude, disoriented, confused, rapid heart rate, fever, breathing problems, nervousness, yellow thick mucus poured from both nostrils, and severe coughing, and severe fatigue, and I felt 80 years old and had to grab onto the railing after I went up a flight of stairs. I was totally exhausted and my lungs filled with fluid and showed up on the x-ray as totally black in both lobes. I was admitted immediately to the hospital where I stayed for 7 days sick as heck! 6-13-04

 
source: healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?p=1057840#post1057840

In arms room - blue 50 gal drums - Corexit?

Corexit was sold to the military. It is a very bad mix that is 38% ethylene glycol monobutyl ether and may also have ethylene oxide ... at least some.

With the red eyes, the puddle of it on the floor possibly?

This could be the exposure that has cause this illness

It will make ones body shut down with too much exposure to it.

The arms room, that's it

The arms room!

rapid heart rate? yes this is what 2-butoxyethanol does - quickly causes hemolytic anemia

Lungs filled with fluid? this is a chemical pneumonia what they would say now as the soldiers in Iraq are dying of pneumonia (more correctly it is pulmonary edema) ... I bet this is what is going on & have felt so from the day I first heard of it.

Ethylene oxide C2H4O (CAS #75-21-8) is used as an intermediate in the production of ethylene glycol. It is also used as a rocket propellant. A harmful concentration of this gas in the air will be reached very quickly on loss of containment. Inhalation of very high concentrations may cause lung edema. Target organs: Eyes, skin, respiratory system, liver, central nervous system, blood, kidneys, reproductive system

There is a painter I met from Canada last month who said he knew his kidney cancer was from paint. I said, yes, most likely. I asked him if he had flu-like symptoms. He said, 'no' dizziness. When the red blood cells are dying off you are loosing the oxygen that they would carry ... that would be the dizziness & a significant symptom.

At the hot temperatures in Iraq, there's no telling how volatile this chemical would be. I wonder what in the world the military thinks this is good for. It is a horrible experimental chemical invention of the Exxon Valdez oil spill cleanup and not even selected for use; but since, there is MSDS information that it has been sold to the Dept of Defense, to Australia for their 1995 oil spill cleanup and dumped from airplanes for the Karachi oil spill. Horrible poison/pesticide/solvent that is a hazardous waste, per my thoughts and should be disposed of as such. Not transported, not stored, not used for anything!

www.valdezlink.com/hi.htm

2-butoxyethanol MSDS info
the fatigue may be findable

shared with shatteredlife2 on healthboards.com

Most likely they didn't do a 'retic ratio' but you have a right to have a copy of your medical records. Just call the doctor's office and ask the nurse to mail you a copy.


Yes, the doctors with a CFS diagnosis are saying that they don't know the cause of the fatigue.

I am saying, based on the study of 2-butoxyethanol, and talking to many people affected by it, that your group is a 'match' for this chemical's harm

and

now I believe that this is the fatigue that has been eluding doctors; and that it is a fatigue that is findable

Just thought I would add the 'short list' put forth by the American Legion for 'Gulf War Syndrome symptoms'

Symptoms of Gulf War Illnesses (according to the American Legion)

Chronic Fatigue

Signs and symptoms involving skin (including skin rashes and unusual hair loss)

Headache

Muscle pain

Neurological signs or symptoms (nervous system disorders which could manifest themselves in numbness in one's arms or legs, for instance)

Neuropsychological signs or symptoms (including memory loss)

Signs or symptoms involving upper or lower respiratory system

Sleep disturbances

Gastrointestinal signs or symptoms (including recurrent diarrhea and constipation)

Cardiovascular signs or symptoms

Menstrual disorders

Of course, the list is longer, but these are the 'symptoms' I recognized.

They also shared these comments, "Veterans have reported a variety of symptoms, such as cognitive difficulties, trouble sleeping, loss of balance, numbness in the hands and feet, and joint and muscle pain. As of yet, researchers have been unable to pin down a cause for this mysterious illness, commonly referred to as the Gulf War Syndrome." 10-6-97

Do you know that I have talked to some doctors that don't think there is any such thing as gulf war syndrome. That's surely not true. But how much help can you get from a doctor who doesn't believe there is such a thing? Point is, doctors don't expect so many things to be going wrong at the same time.... & most probably all caused by one type of chemical exposure (& did you know that few doctors do any study in the area of chemical poisoning? Their MD training doesn't include any from what I've been told)

Margaret
He talked about his lungs filling up; taking the horsepill antibiotic
(Largest dose that you could take & not die); he also remembered the blue 55 gallon barrels that were leaking and he even stepped in it.

Of course he is looking elsewhere.

I believe this is the Corexit sold to the Dept of Defense
Developed for the first time for the Exxon Valdez Oil spill cleanup  valdezlink.com/inipol/corexit.htm

January, 2005 -   repost  October 12, 2005