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 What does blood do?

Mother Margaret
February 19, 2004

My most important post in 21 months gulfwarvets.com/ubb/Forum9/HTML/000019.html


Blood is the only fluid tissue in the body. Blood transports oxygen and nutrients to body tissues, and returns waste and carbon dioxide. Blood distributes nearly everything that is carried from one area in the body to another place within the body. For instance, hormones are transported from the endocrine organs to their target organs. Blood helps maintain body temperature and normal pH levels in body tissues. The protective functions of blood include clot formation and the prevention of infection.

Some charts to help you track what you blood is like now, vs before - when you were well

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RATnaCAGE
Junior Member
February 19, 2004 
What does blood do? MY BLOOD BOILS every time I read a post from you that relates ALL of our illnesses to 2-butoxyethanol. We DID NOT bathe in JP-5, we DID NOT guzzle CLP rifle cleaner and we DID NOT use oils and solvents as sun tan lotion! We WERE however, given experimental shots, we WERE exposed to chemical/biological agents, we WERE forced to take PB pills, and we WERE scared to freakin death every time an NBC alarm went off in the middle of the night as we would scramble to get our bearings and don and clear our gas masks. I do not mean to be rude Margaret, but I for one am sick of the same answers and links from you post after post after post after post after post. Well now that I have had my little fit, I guess I will head out to the garage and drink a six pack of 10w40 motor oil with a WD40 and Formula 409 chaser. Ummmmmmmmmm Ummmmmmmm Good!

RAT...

P.S.- cant we just stick to known facts on this site that will actually help vets with treatment and claims?

ddgarzilla
Administrator
February 20, 2004 
I myself would really like to know how and why the valdez oil spill has to do with gulf war illness.

I know that if you can take any chemical and begin the inflammation process , at the basic level it is only about delaying the final insult which is death and the inflammation process destroying cells to try and keep the tissues living.

But I would like to know what treatments are available.


And as far as z .

opposition to this site reinforces that something good must be being done here.

dd

Gale
Administrator
February 20, 2004 
I think the relationship between exposures of the Alaska oil spill and the Gulf War is that many of us were exposed to petroleum by-products in either the oil itself, or the smoke from the oilwell fires. That's as far as I can see in the relationship, because both exposures produce same or similar health conditions for which there is little research and treatment.

As far as the effects of cleaning products that contain petroleum by-products, I think it's stretching that issue as it applies to combat veterans who were exposed to a whole lot more in the AOR. However, if research and effective treatments can be found for the least of these exposures, we may have hope in treating some of the others.

I have been able to find some interesting information from Margaret's links on conditions, research, and treatments from toxic exposures, and for that alone, I appreciate what she has done.

When I was first fighting this illness and going through the claims process, I really didn't give a lot of thought or creedence to those who said they were sick and didn't deploy to the AOR. I was quite a "combat snob" at the time. The thought of some of these conditions arising as a result of bad vaccines was almost laughable to me at the time-- until I realized many people can't even take flu shots (even with a good batch of vaccine). Many people are allergic to the ingredients that is derived from shellfish in flu shots. It took a while for me to even realize the effects of the other prophylactics on everyone, even though I had ended up in the field hospital for 3 days from the side-effects of the anti-malarial tablets.

Then, as research and reports began to take place, we found that Bioport (the only maker of anthrax vaccine) had, indeed, given us a bunch of outdated vaccines that hadn't even been inspected by the FDA. So, now we have an entire group of veterans left out in the cold, regarding VA benefits and treatments even though they were prepped for war with inoculations, but didn't deploy. And what about the vets who DID use a lot of cleaning fluids and products who didn't deploy, but are now sick? Or the Navy folks who weren't close to everything on land in the AOR, but who had been involved in grinding antiskid materials on aircraft carrier decks:
http://www.va.gov/publ/direc/health/infolet/109904.doc
(March 5, 1999
UNDER SECRETARY FOR HEALTH'S INFORMATION LETTER
RESPIRATORY DISEASES IN FORMER NAVY DECK GRINDERS)


Now, as I look around, we even have civilians who have been affected by either inoculations, or direct exposure in cleaning the equipment that came back from the war. I had company these past two weeks with a friend of mine who worked at Rota, Spain during the Gulf War as a civilian, who is now sick with conditions we have, as a result of having to clean the equipment that came back to Spain from the Gulf War.

Can we really justify the toxic and hazardous exposures, without aggressive research and treatment to ANYONE? Not in my humble opinion. So, who is it we are trying to help here? Just those who were in the AOR during the war? Those who were part of the war effort, but not deployed? Everyone involved in the war effort (including civilians)?

I can only serve best in the areas I am most familiar with and try to learn and pick up a few things along the way from others, trying to keep an open mind. For the purpose of helping vets get VA benefits, I can only really help those who are eligibile by the VA's criteria of being service-connected by virtue of being in the AOR during the Gulf War.

For the purpose of helping anyone else who is sick from the other effects of toxic exposures, I can only try to provide as much information as possible on what research and treatments are available in the civilian sector and refer them to Social Security benefits, as well. Possibly, we may learn from each other as to the research and treatments, at least, regardless what exposures we're dealing with.

Robert
Member
February 20, 2004 
I have to agree with the 2 fellas. I, for one, easn't exposed to the oil or fires, never used the cleaners or any of the stuff. However, I, along with at least 100,000 other U.S. troops were exposed to chemicals and there is proof of that and the problems it can cause. Here's more info I found on the Pitt's website:
gulfwarvetlawsuit.com/page6.html

 

ddgarzilla
Administrator
February 20, 2004
MOST EVERYBODY THAT HAS BEEN BANNED FROMTHIS BULLEINT BOARD HAS BEEN BANNED FOR HARPING ON THE FACT THAT IT WAS MULTIPLE CHEMICAL EXPOSURES AND INSULTS , INCLUDING THE MOST FILTHIEST OF THE OIL FIELDS IN THE WORLD BEING IN KUWAIT.

i AM ONE THAT WAS EXPOSED TO ALL OF THE ABOVE.

yET JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME THAT WERE JUST INNOOCULATED AND DIDN'T LEAVE CONUS, AND OTHERS THAT DID, DOES NOT IN ANY WAY DIMINISH THOSE THAT WERE NOT IN THE THEATRE OF OPERATIONS FROM GETTING ILL.

aND IT ALSO DOESN'T MEAN THAT THOSE OF US WHO WERE EXPOSED TO THE OIL WELL FIRES AND DRENCHED WITH OIL, DOESN'T MEAN WE DON'T NEED THE HELP OF THOSE WHO HAVE GOTTEN BETTER RESEARCH FOR THEIR AILMENTS SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT VETERANS.

veterans ARE A CLASS OF PEOPLE IN THE unITED sTATES. iN SOME WAYS WE ARE TREATED BETTER AND IN OTHERS TOTALLY DISREGARDED DEPENDING ON THE POLITICAL CLIMATE OF THE TIMES.

IT IS GOOD TO GET TREATMENT AND INFO OUTSIDE THE VA SYSTEM NOW AND THEN.

dd

2-25-04

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