1 - GALE:
December 01, 2003
Mother Margaret has shown and expressed a great deal of interest in
chemical exposures to include the workers of the Valdez oil-spill clean
up and Gulf War veterans. She has a great deal of information and
compassion for everyone affected by these exposures.
We feel she will be a great asset on this bulletin board.
for input from the Gulf War Vets, the Exxon Valdez oil spill
cleanup workers posted
December 01, 2003
Thank you for sharing your experience. We learn what happened from
sharing with each other. Of course the most frustrating thing is
that you seem unable to get an accurate diagnosis. . . or for
health care professionals to recognize the 'whole picture' of what
chemicals do, and one in particular. I'm sure doctors are just as
frustrated. We need their help! Without an accurate diagnosis, how
can you be helped? You don't need any more time lost, or
'experimental' procedures. We need to know what really happened to
keep it from happening over and over again.
May I have your input on what your symptoms are and comments in
can e-mail me directly, and I will summarize for the Bulletin
Board, or you may do your own post.
May I ask your indulgence to first check out the primary
chemical of harm to the Exxon Valdez oil spill cleanup workers?
(2-butoxyethanol) Because although there are many things that can
cause harm in war settings, there are few which do nearly ALL the
'odd symptoms' that 2-butoxyethanol does.
I believe troops also have exposure to it in what they clean
their guns with and in the degreaser, and decontamination products
they may be using.
For repeated use, doesn't the MSDS say to use goggles and chemical
A main focus: an accurate diagnosis and an effective treatment.
We may need to lobby for policy changes, too, to keep others from
the same harm.
Just thought I would mention that I've heard comments from
military that complain they have the same symptoms and they
weren't in the Gulf War. I would also most particularly welcome
comments from any military from 1989 to the present with the GWS
And also US Coast Guard and US Navy are part of the Exxon
Valdez oil spill cleanup workers, as well.
We have many sub groups that deserve to be medically monitored.
I'm afraid we will learn that the cleanup chemicals were worse
than the oil itself. But none in authority seem to know it, and
the chemicals are being used more and more: Such as Corexit 9527
in Australia, 1995; in Karachi 2003 & in the military, too
since 1989? Next the arctic ocean?
Thank you all - in advance - for your input!
5 - Topic:
Comments from military since 1989 with 'Gulf War Syndrome' symptoms
Yes, Gale, because Chad IS a Gulf War combat soldier, I placed his
I received a call from a Navy man 12-4 who said he was on a ship in
1998 heading to the Gulf when he came down with many 'Gulf War Syndrome'
symptoms: chronic fatigue; poor memory, headaches, sore muscles/joints,
depression, tremors in hands/legs, no appetite, urine was light brown -
sort of amber back then... not the normal color; dehydrated, couldn't be
alert & wide awake in the daytime, but couldn't sleep at night
either, etc. It was noteworthy that the ship's hospital seemed to be
always full; but he didn't know what other shipmates' symptoms were.
He said recently a neurologist turned him down flat, saying that he
couldn't give any meds for his symptoms. In fact some of the tests the
military had given him already were regulated, and he couldn't order
the same as a civilian doctor. AND since it wasn't an illness with an
accepted diagnoses, he could not help at all.
This navy man did not know what to do. I shared, that yes, some of
the info I had was factual, as to what 2-butoxyethanol did, and some
studies, but that it needed more study.
He lived near Dr. Rea; so I would think that would be one person to
help him check further, and that an expert in blood and in the glandular
systems would also be a step in the right direction.
Basically he expressed concerns about the Anthrax vaccine. I said, it
sounded like that could cause some harm, too, however, the
2-butoxyethanol is known to cause the symptoms he had mentioned.
He said they used CLP for cleaning guns. It was the ONLY approved
military gun cleaner. And, oh yes, there was a vat that only metal parts
were put in called the Parts' Washer. He didn't know what solvent that
- Topic: Comments from any who worked on the Exxon
Valdez Oil spill cleanup
December 02, 2003
Terri shared that the specialists she has been seeing for
'seizures' and joints 'falling apart' would not look at the
information on 2-butoxyethanol which she was exposed to during her
1989 laborer's work; there've been several operations for her and
her husband, to put joints back together. Once the lab tech said
there was more in the blood of note, but because the doctor didn't
order that info, it couldn't be shared. She's taking medicine for
the horrible nausea, too. That could even be harmful if meds
caused the nausea in the first place (?)
Here is another such worker:
Yesterday I received a call from Slim. He said he just got out
of the hospital. He has been in the hospital 5 times since July.
His heart races wildly and then he collapses. So many times the
docs look at him in disinterest and unbelief.
They have found some aspects of his health problem, but so far,
not a full and complete and accurate diagnosis.
He was found to have 3 of his 4 heart chambers enlarged. He has
elevated white blood cells, blood in urine; symptoms of hemolytic
anemia, but no diagnosis as such.
In February I drove 180 miles to get him and take him to the
doctor. He had RBCs of 4.59 and was thought to be just fine.
His red blood counts are dropping now and he has lost 30 pounds
in 2 months... can't keep his food down (liver?)
He seems to have gotten worse since he started taking strong
medication for his hands and feet that don't heal up. Worked
during Exxon Valdez Oil Spill cleanup as a general laborer for
Price-Ahtna had had some Corexit spill on him while working the
red bagging area. He later also steam cleaned the blue barrels
that held Corexit. Said the fumes were horrible. He is now
declared legally blind (eyes had holes). The eye specialist said
there was nothing that could be done.
Says he has horrible exhaustion, horrible headaches; can't keep
any moisture in his skin (2-butoxyethanol is good at degreasing
and it also defats the skin)
Says in recent years he has all the signals of time to urinate,
and nothing happens. (On the verge of kidney failure.)
He's a vet, too, went in the military when he was too young,
actually. Here is some of what he has shared with me:valdezlink.com/evos/from_s.htm
Oh, yes, he will loose his temper real quick. He probably
always had some temper but not like since this work.
With a good assortment of the 'symptoms' indicating this
no in-depth focus on what is going on with his blood
December 02, 2003
This is Capt Richard D. Nagel, who wrote his own letter last
month. He had already given me pictures for the website. So they
are included here, too.
I'm hoping he is OK, too, as it seems he is just barely hanging
on; it seems too that his family doesn't understand his health
December 02, 2003
US Coastguardsman -
"I was a monitor for the 'bioremediation workers' of the
Exxon Valdez Oil spill cleanup. We were there before the first
worker arrived to spray the beaches with Inipol EAP 22 and we were
there until after the first one left."
"After that I was sent by the Coast Guard to be back up
for the Gulf War"
"What distresses me the most, although I have many
ailments, including rapid heart beat, is that I have been unable
to father children. There is no explanation for it."valdezlink.com/gwv/vetsymptoms.htm#monitor
Also - the military needs to look
further - Has this chemical harmed
my dad's birthday - he was a chief in the Navy with a Fire Control
asks for prayer for Ardis
something peppy today? Many
are praying - Try
to have a happy day What
are the 7 wonders?
2002 - 2009 Margaret
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